This FAQ is posted every 20 days and the current copy should be considered to supersede all previous postings.
This FAQ was developed by Tony Jones, and reviewed by Doug Jefferys and Steve Ozdemir. This document may be freely distributed, as long as the above credits remain in place.
I welcome all comments and suggestions for improvement via email to tony@sunquest.com.
Information about UK sources was kindly provided by John Keay.
WWW version by Frederic Vecoven
veco@montefiore.ulg.ac.be
Discussion of all games is welcome on rgva.collecting, as long as the discussion is related to collection (as defined above).
Postings relating to game play, game history, game features and game advocacy (the various merits of a game or games) should be directed to the parent group, rec.games.video. arcade (rgva), unless a clear link to collecting can be made.
Remember that before posting to rgva.collecting you should already be familiar with the posting conventions and guidelines that are posted periodically to the newsgroup news. announce.newusers. If you cannot find these guidelines by reading the group, wait a while and a copy will be posted, or try asking fellow users or the system administrators at your site for a copy.
In addition, newcomers are strongly advised to read rgva.collecting for at least a few weeks before posting for the first time.
You are, of course, free to ignore all of this advice. You should, however, remember that your postings reflect upon yourself. If you choose to pursue collecting video games further, you will be dealing with people who read your postings, and first impressions can often be lasting.
I was playing "punch&kick" last night and this happened, has anyone else ever seen it?
Does anyone know of an arcade which has the game "old&dated"?
My favourite arcade game is "classic". What is yours ? Please don't post these questions to rgva.collecting. These are "gameplay"-related questions; they belong in rec.games.video.arcade
Games can be bought from four main sources :
Often dealers who specialize in "Home Sales" will advertize alongside operators in the Yellow Pages. Usually their prices are far higher than those of a true operator, so it pays to shop around.
A cool head and "don't appear too eager" are the keys to getting a good price. Visiting in person combined with a degree of "disinterest" towards the games present, rather than telephoning to ask "do you have game X" almost always results in a better deal.
There is a detailed FAQ available on buying machines from an operator; you should probably read this before you start hunting. Check Section 4 of this FAQ for details on where to find it.
Replay Magazine
PO BOX 2550
Woodland Hills
CA 91365
Readers from the UK, should obtain a copy of the newspaper
'Worlds Fair' which contains a smaller paper called 'Coin Slot'.
This contains information about upcoming auctions, and also many
adverts for complete games and boards. There is a detailed FAQ available on buying machines from an auction; you should probably read this before you start hunting. Check Section 4 of this FAQ for details on where to find it.
There are frequent "For Sale" and "Wanted" adverts for both complete games and just circuit boards posted to the group.
If you were in the UK and looking for a PacMan pcb use a SUBJECT
line similar to:
"WANTED (UK): PacMan pcb"
If you were in California and selling an upright Space Invaders
use a SUBJECT line similar to:
"FORSALE (CA): Space Invaders upright"
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO STATE YOUR GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, as it is often difficult to tell from looking at your Internet address. If you cannot specify your location in the Subject line, or you need to elaborate, please do so in the text of your posting (after all, in the examples above, California and the UK are BIG places)
Learn something from how you would advertise in a newspaper - make your posting stand out. When you advertise in a newspaper, you wouldn't leave out information such as price and condition, and expect people to call you for details. Its no different via email, if you are selling state the price you want, whether this includes shipping or not, what the condition of the game is and anything else you feel will help you attract a buyers attention. Unlike a newspaper, you are not paying by the word, so you are free to be a little more descriptive.
If you are posting a "Wanted" ad, state as precicely as possible what you want (sorry, but "Games wanted, email me your list" just doesn't cut it), state what you are prepared to pay, if condition is important, mention the desired condition. If you have other criteria be sure to list them also.
Finally, remember, that method of shipment and packing is usually left up to the seller, if you want a specific method employed, be sure to mention it.
Experienced collectors often find it cheaper to buy a game circuit board and adapt it into an existing cabinet, rather than buying the complete game. It's cheaper, and it also saves a lot of space. Most boards generally sell for between $5-$25 "as-is" in a bulk deal with an operator and $30-40 guaranteed from a fellow rgva.collector reader. See Section 3.6 for more details.
Usually this translates into about $200-$250 to deliver the game to the shipping company's closest warehouse (relative to your home). Add extra bucks if you'd like it delivered to your doorstep. The seller will also have to "crate" the game before taking it to the shipper, which costs additional money, to say nothing of his time.
Expect to pay extra to ship very long distances, or to ship larger cabinets (i.e. 4 player or sit down cabinets). Shipping smaller cabinets (i.e. coctails) or shipping very short distances (next state) may end up slightly cheaper, but not much.
Still want to ship the game? Okay, but remember we warned you first. Finding one locally is a far better idea.
This is perhaps the most complex subject for video game collectors. Fortunately, there is a detailed FAQ dedicated to the topic; you will likely want to read this before you start brandishing your soldering iron. See Section 4 for more details.
If the information you are looking for is not present in the archives, information on how to locate the manufacturer should be, and they are often willing to supply documentation for around $10-15 per game.
If that doesn't work, your local operator will often have filing cabinets full of documentation. Sometimes they will let you leave a deposit and borrow some. Develop a relationship with your local operator(s); it can really pay off when the game's manufacturer has gone out of business or discontinued support.
If you locate some documentation which was not in the archives, PLEASE take the time to type in some useful sections and make it available to the rest of us! (See Section 5.1 for details)
Failing this, see Section 5 for help in finding the addresses of parts suppliers.
Look for it to be posted periodically to the newsgroup.
Gopher access on port 70 is also available.
Additions/corrections to the archive are welcome, especially information about pinouts and switch settings.
The following information is available via FTP in the "game_archive" directory. In each directory, there is a README file containing further instructions.
(In the following transcript, "..." indicates lines deleted. You would see additional output if you were following the example yourself.) $ ftp wiretap.spies.com Connected to wiretap.spies.com. 220 wiretap.Spies.COM FTP server (Version 6.11) ready. Name (wiretap.spies.com:): anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password. Password: 230- ... 230-Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. ftp> cd game_archive 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. ... info tradingPost boardPinouts switchSettings conversion ... 226 Transfer complete. 123 bytes received in 0.011 seconds (11 Kbytes/s) ftp> cd info 250 CWD command successful. ftp> get FAQ.game.buying 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for FAQ.game.buying (38437 bytes). 226 Transfer complete. local: FAQ.game.buying remote: FAQ.game.buying 39281 bytes received in 43 seconds (0.88 Kbytes/s) ftp> quit 221 Goodbye.
If you have questions regarding the WWW (what it is, how to use it etc) PLEASE do not post to rgva.collecting. Instead try asking your local site administrator, or subscribe to the USENET newsgroup comp.infosystems.www
The following WWW pages are currently available:
Most of the FAQ's from rgva.collecting in WWW hypertext format. (NOTE: these versions may not be as current as those available from the rgva.collecting ftp server wiretap.spies.com).
The following subset of the FTP information is available from the mail server:
Keyword Equivalent information on wiretap.spies.com ------- ------------------------------------------- pinouts info/pinoutinfo.lst addresses info/FAQ.addresses <pinout_name> boardPinouts/* <switch_name> switchSettings/*To request information from the mailserver, send an email message to: rgva@gisatl.fidonet.org
The "Subject:" line of your message MUST read
Request <keyword>where
Mail-to: <your email address>To obtain the pinouts/switches for a particular game, first obtain the list of available pinouts by using "request pinouts". Then request the specific pinout or switch using the keyword as specified in the pinout list in place of <pinout_name> or <switch_name>.
$ mail rgva@gisatl.fidonet.org Subject: Request <pinout_name> Mail-to: <your_username@your_site.subdomain.domain> EOT
For the Internet, AT&T operates internic.net, the Internet Network Information Center. There is a telnet interface, allowing interactive queries. Most entries also list an email address.
As is the case with all databases, the information you get out is only as useful as the search criteria you provide.
(In the following transcript, "..." indicates lines deleted. You would see additional output if you were following the example yourself.) $ telnet internic.net Trying 198.41.0.5... Connected to internic.net. Escape character is '^]'. ... [] InterNIC > wais sega Search Response: NumberOfRecordsReturned: 14 1: Score: 1000, lines: 17 'Sega of America (SEGAOA-DOM) ... ... 14: Score: 1000, lines: 13 'Sega of America Inc. (NETBLK-SEGAOA) ... View document number [type 0 or q to quit]: 1 ...